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If You’re Not a Hypocrite, Maybe Your Standards are too Low

June 17th, 2008 | by Frank Turek

Both political parties have their problems, but I thought this was brilliant. http://www.townhall.com/funnies/cartoonist/MikeShelton/2007/09/1

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17 Responses to “If You’re Not a Hypocrite, Maybe Your Standards are too Low”

That Darn Republican Says:
June 17th, 2008 at 11:16 am
That was great… but at least the Republican’s will ferret out the bad guys then an issue comes up. The Dems just equivocate the matter and say stop ‘judging’ us and ignore the matter thinking it will go away. Their complicity and hypocrisy runs deep… though you are right to cite both parties in this matter.
Plumb Bob Says:
June 23rd, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Your standards must always exceed your ability to perform. If they don’t, how can one ever improve?
Andrew Ryan Says:
June 25th, 2008 at 10:20 am
So the below story is just a result of party having standards that are too high?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....08931.html

“Even senior Justice Department officials flinched at what appeared to be hiring decisions based _ improperly and illegally _ on politics, according to the internal report.”

Still, hey - lots of room to imrove there guys!
That Darn Republican Says:
June 27th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
Andrew… Now I really don’t think having to high a standard was the focus of the article, now do you?
Andrew Ryan Says:
June 28th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
It’s a cartoon, not an article. What do YOU think the focus is? It clearly shows the GOP tripping over its ‘high standards’. The reality is that this Justice Dept situation isn’t a case of them failing a set of very high standards. It’s a case of blatant sleaze. The cartoon seems to be an attempt at damage limitation. The GOP should focus on getting its house in order, not saying ‘Hey, we just tripping over our own ‘high standards’ - and look at the other party, they’re worse!’.
That Darn Republican Says:
June 28th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Andrew,

That was a blatant project now wasn’t it, taking the text and picture into context - it is about rank finger pointing from low-brow leftist social agitators have thing the unmitigated gall to point fingers at republicans who make mistakes like everyone else, but unlike liberals - don’t point fingers and then make excuses why the individuals with their political affiliations are somehow indemnified from prosecution or removal from office. It reveals a power play at hand, which makes them out to be the hypocrites and liars they are here, no surprise here, but I don’t expect you understand…
Andrew Ryan Says:
June 28th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
“but unlike liberals - don’t point fingers and then make excuses why the individuals with their political affiliations are somehow indemnified from prosecution or removal from office.”

What, like Scooter Libby getting pardoned by Bush, or that Gonzales bloke hanging on for months rather than doing the decent thing and stepping down. THAT is hypocrisy.
That Darn Republican Says:
June 28th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Andrew,

it is obvious you are a social liberal, but you have to get your political facts straight, and I don’t know too many libs that want to as far as politics are concerned. Gonzales was doing his job and stepped down for family issues, not that he needed to. He broke no law - he was acting on executive orders that are well with the purview of the office of the President. They may relieve standing judges as they wish under executive privilege. Clinton did it with those very, very liberal choices in Bader-Ginsburg and Souter and they never got obstructed as many have been by the left.

Libby was ultimately exonerated, they had nothing on his really - it was a leftist witch hunt, the left want to indict any part of the Bush administration they can… they can’t get the man himself - so go for the cheap seats. That’s not right at all.. the far left is insane and incensed, they need to quit. I don’t know where you get your political info from but it is partisan at best and highly inaccurate.
Andrew Ryan Says:
June 29th, 2008 at 4:24 am
“Gonzales was doing his job and stepped down for family issues, not that he needed to.”

You are completely in denial.
That Darn Republican Says:
June 29th, 2008 at 9:13 am
“You are completely in denial.”

Lol! No, it is your liberal underpinnings that interdicts your ability to reason, Gonzalez broke no laws what so ever. It is the presidents authority and privilege to remove judges as he wishes, you need a more thorough understanding of our appellate and circuit court appointment system before you make such grand claims here… tow words: Executive Privilege.
That Darn Republican Says:
June 29th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
lol… two words, sorry
Andrew Ryan Says:
June 29th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Right, and Nixon quit to spend more time with HIS family too.
That Darn Republican Says:
June 29th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Well, engaging in subterfuge isn’t helping your point either… I never made a point about Nixon. At least he took it like a man, lol!
Andrew Ryan Says:
June 29th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Not really. He kept denying it - “I am not a crook” etc. He backed out when he had to, and still didn’t admit to wrong doing. He eventually admitted it all ages later in an interview with David Frost, which he only agreed to do in exchange for $600,000.

You can defend Gonzales all you want, but by the end even his fellow GOPs, even in congress, were accusing him of wrong-doing and telling him to go. You’re not impressing me by saying he was innocent. If Exec Priv is the get out, then why all the questions in Congress about the firings? Why all the Gonzales answers of “I don’t know” and “I can’t recall” . If he’d done nothing wrong, why the evasion?

Perhaps he was just doing his master’s bidding, but that just makes his bosses look all the shadier. You defending Paul Wolfowitz too? Did HE resign for more family time? Face it, the whole rotten bunch of them have been corrupt, hence the terrible ratings the GOP now get.
That Darn Republican Says:
June 29th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Andrew,

“You’re not impressing me by saying he was innocent. If Exec Priv is the get out, then why all the questions in Congress about the firings? Why all the Gonzales answers of “I don’t know” and “I can’t recall” . If he’d done nothing wrong, why the evasion?”

Well that you are impressed or not doesn’t move me. The fact is I gave you the truth, the Oval Office can appoint who they want and they can fire who they want. Only liberal Republican fell for the politically correct rantings of the left. He left because he felt it better for his family, trust me if he wasn’t married do you think he’d have stepped down? not - As for GOP rating… I could care less, I am a social conservative, not a party loyal fanatic. Those are the nuts, then I’d agree with you lol!
Plumb Bob Says:
June 29th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
I read that Huffpo article. Fascinating. Let’s take stock:

George Bush had a Justice Dept that looked at resumes of leftists and didn’t hire them.

Bill Clinton had a Justice Dept that looked at resumes of conservatives and didn’t hire them. His Justice Dept also stonewalled the proper investigation of the solicitation of illegal campaign contributions from foreign governments — governments that received strong favors from the Clinton admin, a scandal in which more than 100 individuals plead the 5th when Congress looked into it. His Justice Dept also stonewalled the proper investigation of bribery attempts for which there was, according to the investigator, strong evidence that the White House was involved (this was the Smaltz commission). His Justice Dept also stonewalled proper investigation of a land scam possibly involving the President that caused the collapse of a $60 million S&L; and three years after the fact, when the few, honest Democrats forced the Clinton Justice Dept to appoint a Special Prosecutor (yep, it was the Democrats who did that),the Clinton Justice Dept loaded half a dozen unrelated issues onto the Special Prosecutor to ensure that he would be distracted from the real issues (for which he turned in 12 felony convictions in spite of the interference from the Justice Dept). This is not to mention the clear and illegal interference in a Justice Dept investigation perpetrated by the White House and reported after the fact in the Barrett Report, which leading Democratic Senators demanded be sealed before the public could see it.

And Andrew Ryan, a Democrat, is trying to draw attention to the Bush administration’s misdeeds.

I’d say the cartoon represents this situation perfectly. Wouldn’t you, Andrew?
That Darn Republican Says:
June 29th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Interesting Bob, also that anything of value was gleaned from Hiffington… lol! Like I said earlier, its the jurisprudence of the Oval office, like it or not - they were elected.

Not to mention the Clinton Administrations complete ignoring of the Eagleberger nation security debacle. The man got away with spying… oh, and that little Chinese national parading as a professor and the University of Arizona, with a l burst transmitter, anyone happen to have a spare burst transmitter, along with their Blackberry or what have you? Co’mon… lol, double standards on the side of the the left.